– Stalingrad (1942-43): What if Hitler had not been so obsessed with Stalingrad and instead had by-passed the city altogether? Most likely it would have been the case that not so much valuable German equipment would have been lost. the battle of Britian if lost the UK would have to sue for peace and the Germans could have walked through North africa taking the worlds lagest oil fields and Refinary . An Allied convoy heads eastward across the Atlantic, bound for Casablanca, in November 1942. The result was that both Germany and Japan were drawn into destructive long-term wars. Taking into account all the setbacks that Doenitz had, was it not possible that Churchill used it as an excuse to gain Roosevelt’s sympathy? Because Germany was so short on oil, steel and (most critically) ... the Nazis would have had to crush their enemies completely in the first phase of the war in order to have any chance of winning. After all, the British and American bombing campaign in itself did not win the war, but combined with D-Day and the victory in the Battle of the Atlantic, these actions had a serious impact in the war in favor of the Allies. You hear this same argument from people discussing the US Civil War. Then, much to their amazement, the Germans halted their advance for three days in order to regroup. Virgil "Spud" Davis, pro baseball catcher, coach, scout and manager. In early September 1940 Germany was probably as close as it would ever come to conquering Britain. Answer Save. Germany lost by a wide margin. Update: This goes to the vote, Thanks all. Winston Churchill would have fled to America, branded as a war criminal by the Nazis. The German campaign of 1940 in France, Holland, and Belgium was nothing short of sheer brilliance. Asked by Wiki User. Art. Whereas for Japan, as the war dragged on, they were slowly starved of the natural resources they so desperately needed to fight effectively. In the middle of The Battle of France, a very large Allied force found themselves surrounded in the Northern French seaport of Dunkirk with no chance of either being relieved or breaking out. Top Answer. Read another story from us: How Communists in Germany Allied with Nazis to Destroy Democracy. The stalemate during trench warfare in WW1 was just that, a stalemate. We were involved in the sense we were providing supplies to GB, but it wouldn't have been enough to stop Germany. Stalin would then have been forced to flee to the east and set up his government in a new capital like Yekaterinburg or Novosibirsk. It wasn't that close. Answer Save. 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The only reason the UK survived is because of the English Channel and Germany's lack of a proper navy. The chances were that the Allies either would have been slaughtered or, most likely, after a brief resistance, surrendered en masse. The country was neutral up until the very end of WW2, and then became a major U.S. ally and member of NATO. The war in Europe might have become winnable for the Germans after all. 33 Answers. What if the disposable Panzerfaust 60, which did not come into full production until September 1944, instead was available on the Russian front in 1943? Once relocated, Stalin would have probably carried out a second set of Purges like the ones he carried out in the 1930s, but they would have been motivated by blaming other people for the catastrophic defeat. – jwenting Aug 29 '16 at 11:33 At the start of the war with USSR , during the first 4 months, Germany had 3 mill. Germany lost by a wide margin. This was the kind of war that neither countries had planned for and, more importantly, a war they were unlikely to win. Branch Rickey, president of the Brooklyn Dodgers. America would have had some degree of satisfaction from the situation, perceiving a kind of victory at not having not been dragged into yet another costly foreign war (with Germany) and happy that they seem to have defeated Japan without having to fire a shot. HistoryNet.com is brought to you by Historynet LLC, the world's largest publisher of history magazines. Towards the end of that campaign, a sizeable force (around 400,000) of Allied troops found themselves surrounded and hemmed in by the Germans at the French seaport of Dunkirk. Could some of the three-quarters of a million Axis casualties at Stalingrad have been avoided? Answer. Imagine large quantities of Me 262s jet fighters attacking American Bomber formations in early 1944. The only other real point where the Germans were close to this victory was during it's first offensives in Belgium and France. This was a fatal mistake because Britain, Germany’s most bitter enemy, was close to powerlessness at that time. Germania 2: A slightly more plausible map of what Germany might look like if it won WW2 by 1Blomma via DeviantArt. This would have allowed for new weapon designs to be better thought-out and arrive in service significantly earlier. Or if he had let Field Marshal Paulus breakout of Stalingrad when he had wanted to? Photo: Bundesarchiv, Bild 101I-342-0603-25 / Ketelhohn [Kettelhohn] / CC-BY-SA 3.0By August, Britain was losing more pilots and aircraft than it could replace. - U.S. had not of joined into the war with military force. But by 1945, the German Federation of Europe would have been a true super power with a strictly maintained dictatorship that was here to stay… for now. Hitler, ever the diplomat, would have offered lenient terms for peace, even though it would be hard for him not to be tempted to be vengeful and extract out of them harsher terms. You hear this same argument from people discussing the US Civil War. The South never had a chance as long as the North had the will to continue the fight. Therefore, they thought their new and cutting-edge equipment such as the MP38 sub-machine guns, the Panzer III & IV tanks, Me 109 fighter aircraft, and Type VII submarine U-boats would be sufficient for this kind of war. The Germans were desperate to win as winter was around them. Tags: ww1 vs ww2; Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > ... That said yes France at points was close to surrender except much had been done to remove that problem. Perhaps this would have turned such important battles such as those at El Alamein (1942) and Kursk (1943) into German victories. Even their early victories were flawed, like the Battle of France in the summer of 1940 that raged on for six weeks. But in the altered scenario, the RAF never gets the chance to recover, and within a month it is crippled with few operating runways or squadrons left. By now, the British people would have been thoroughly demoralized as their army had yet to recover from its defeat in France, especially at Dunkirk. Who knows? – Their equipment (1942-45): The Germans thought World War Two would be a relatively short conflict, maybe a year or two at most. But the Allies still managed to evacuate back to Britain over 330,000 of those troops, about 85% of the soldiers who had been trapped there in just a few days. For all his many failings Ribbentrop was closer to the truth than he might have realised. Relevance. Quite quickly, Germany would have developed long range bombers with nuclear bombs followed by nuclear tipped missiles. As a result, we shall see what actually happened. There is precedent of countries declaring war on Germany/Japan in 1945 just to be a part of the new world order (United Nations), Turkey being the biggest and most obvious example. More Questions at Ask Mr. History. And a lot of resources were wasted on such colossal failures like the Me 163 Komet and the 188 ton Maus super tank. Wiki User Answered . Its radar network would have had large blind spots in it, and German bombing raids would have frequently used these spots to sneak in undetected. A look into why the Germans could not pull a win out of the war with the realities they found themselves in. I ask this because I have heard wildly different assessments by different people. As for the Japanese surprise attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, despite striking a devastating blow against the American navy, crucially it failed to destroy the American carrier force who were not in port at the time. The British Government would have been topped and a new one would have been formed based around reconciliation. Anonymous. Germany in WW2. How close was Germany to winning the war? During World War I, the German Empire was one of the Central Powers that lost the war. As a result, the Germans would not have launched Operation Barbarossa to invade Russia on June 22, 1941, but would have been able to take advantage of the first good weather of that year at the beginning of April, nearly three months earlier than the invasion actually took place. Instead, there would probably have been a cease-fire much like that between North and South Korea after the Korean War. While Nazi Germany winning World War Two makes for great literary fiction, how plausible was it really? The German Strategy was of course to crush the USSR by a two-front attack: The German Panzers were to roll into the USSR from the west, which actually took place on June 22, 1941, and the Japanese Imperial Army was to attack Siberia from the east, which never took place. Partition amoureuse by Tatiana de Rosnay. If Britain was unable to recover from these losses, might they then have considered some kind of conditional surrender or negotiated a peace settlement with Germany? However, there might be one event that, if it had been done differently, could have had a domino effect that might have resulted in Germany winning the war. If he had managed to take Britain and therefore divert troops to North Africa no one could have formed a beach head against Europe save the Russians. What if Hitler had resisted on December 11, 1941, and had not declared war on America? The Germans were unaware of the size of the evacuation until after it had happened. The bombing of London and other cities from that month on never achieved the “terror” factor Adolf Hitler sought, but it did give the RAF the reprieve it needed in the nick of time. Lv 7. Do 17 bombers during the Battle of Britain. But his triumphs were not part of a strategic conception that secured victory in the long run. Nazi Germany had four main weaknesses, namely: 1. Jon Guttman These extra months would have given them ample time to advance all the way to Moscow before the Russian winter set in. Both the South and Germany just too stupid to realize the war was lost 2 years before it actually ended. Many say war is about which side makes the fewest mistakes. Van de Graff, physicist, invented the Van de Graaff generator. The Russians unleashed about 3000 tanks the Germans didn't know they had and smashed the German 6th Army and left German morale in tatters. 42 43 44. So, by the winter of 1940, Germany would have been able to concentrate on preparing to attack Russia. What if the Germans had not paused but had instead continued the attack and struck a crippling blow against the Allied Armies? It was unlikely there would have been a Russian surrender or a peace treaty as the countries were so ideologically opposed. Did Germany come closer to "winning" WW1 or WW2? The British slow moving and badly armored Valentine Mk2 tank with its 2-pounder (37mm) guns would not have stood a chance. He would just restrict Britain’s ability to fight a war, demanding no reparations or territorial losses apart from Gibraltar, which Germany would then have given to Spain in exchange for them joining the Tripartite Pact treaty. -New Technology (1943-45): It is often said that the Germans relied too heavily on the idea that a new generation of “Wonder Weapons” would win them the war. HistoryNet.com contains daily features, photo galleries and over 5,000 articles originally published in our various magazines. Harvey Firestone, industrialist and tire maker. How close was Hitler to winning the WWII, really? captives, most of which were eager to fight against USSR regime. But Hitler saw it as an excuse to come to Japan’s aid. Clay Blair seems to refute the belief Britain was about to fall. But none could have forever turned a blind eye to the mass disappearance of their Jewish neighbors and the increasing amount of Nazi propaganda in the heavily controlled “free” press. World History Group The failures in Russia were major factors, but the late entrance of the U.S. tipped the scale. Harry F. Byrd Jr., first independent ever elected to US Senate by a majority of the popular vote (Virginia). Then, as planned, Hitler would have launched his aerial bombing campaign against Britain, known as the Battle of Britain, on July 10, 1940. Instead, sensing a quick victory, he would have concentrated on gaining air superiority by completely destroying RAF Fighter Command and it’s infrastructure. At first, this proved to be a good philosophy, but later they became far too worried about introducing new models in case it disrupted wartime production. Adam Powell, Welsh game designer; co-founder of Neopets and Meteor Games companies. Both had gambled on a war that was quick, with decisive victories that would win them significant territorial gains. But if these projects had been canceled earlier on and their resources diverted to more promising projects, the war might have had a totally different outcome. How close did Nazi Germany come to winning WW2? This would have weakened the Russian war machine even further as top military figures and designers were shipped off to prison camps to die for their perceived failure to halt the German onslaught of 1941. It might mean that Britain would no longer have the numbers needed to defend its homeland. Would that have led them to gain air superiority over Britain and subsequently led to a successful invasion? Their actions unknowingly let the Allies evacuate a large number of troops. Research Director The South never had a chance as long as the North had the will to continue the fight. For the Allies in World War Two, the defeat of Germany was their priority. In reality, the British introducing new tactics and the Germans switching to civilian bombing allowed the RAF time to recover its numbers. Germany’s invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941 proved to be the undoing of Hitler’s military campaign. Dick Wolf, television producer (Miami Vice, Law & Order). For instance, according to Soviet records, they captured vast amounts of German equipment including 10,722 trucks and 12,701 heavy machine guns. Having said that, GB AND RUSSIA deserve most of the credit for winning WW2. What if the Germans had planned from the beginning for a much longer war and started to develop weaponry like the initially unreliable Panther tank much sooner? How close was Germany to bringing Great Britain to its knees in WW2? By October 1940, it would have been all over: the Germans would have totally destroyed the RAF, and then the German bombing raids would have started in earnest against British civilian populated areas and factories. Nazi Germany was winning until mid 1942 and early 1943 when the battle of Stalingrad started. But the simple fact that these two nations held out until 1945 shows how strong and resilient they were. But neither Germany nor Japan could deliver a killer blow that would decisively end the conflict. There was a good possibility America would have thrown all its might against the Japanese, allowing Britain to become isolated and Germany to concentrate on defeating Russia. The RAF would have been totally destroyed and the cities would be relentlessly bombed. – Declaring war on America (1941): Germany was part of a Tripartite Pact with Italy and Japan. They also rationalized that their production lines were flexible enough to make modifications and upgrades to these existing models. Imagine the impact a sizeable number of Panther tanks with their long-barrelled 75mm guns and thick sloped armor would have had in the desert of North Africa in 1942. Favorite Answer. So what if the Germans had attacked earlier and in greater numbers? But to give an opinion: if everything had gone according to the German plan, there would have been no WW2. invade the Soviet Union in the hopes of getting access to more resources. How long would the peace have held? Clay Blair seems to refute the belief Britain was about to fall. In this alternative, less effort would have been made on the invasion of Britain (Operation Sea Lion) and the Luftwaffe would not have suffered the mauling it did at the hands of the RAF. How close were the Nazis to winning World War 2? George Roy Hill, film director (Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, The Sting). 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